I had a friend who took his life and I did not enjoy the way it was handled and I couldn't be in a space anymore that didn't support human life as the number one thing, it was more that I was worried about my own kids. He brought in Justin to sign, so I didn't work with him in that way and then I quit. Q: Were you also reluctant even in the beginning of your relationship to take it to that level? A: Yes, outside of work, I felt like I'd done it smart because I worked at the label. I loved him and I loved what we were building and I loved all the philanthropic things we were doing, but that version of a world that's aspirational not knowing me because of the outside I didn't want to be a part of that. I didn't want to be on the red carpet, it wasn't a place that was comfortable for me. I felt like I failed in every area cuz I could careless, I mean look at my hair, I could care less about getting fancy. What's funny and what really made me think about it, is that I was traveling for a long time, I did a bunch of jobs I was out of the country with Jay, I was out of the country with Kanye and different people, but when that whole thing happened with Usher, I had to realize like why? and then I thought about my times with people like Lionel Richie or Mariah Carey and then it made sense about Usher because you love Jay and you love Kanye and their songs mean a lot to you, but a song that you maybe lost your virginity to, or got married to, there's an emotional connection, so that that's why the relationship meant more. Q: I mean you were with Usher, I mean you were married to Usher, like you didn't think that people were going to be fascinated with you? A: You know I really wasn't a person who leaned into people's love stories outside of my own and I worked with a million., I mean I've been around the world with huge artists. I also I had to talk to Paparazzi a few times and be like, "listen, I'm never going to come out of the car with my out, you know you're not going to find me, like, it's never gonna happen, I'm boring, so shoot him and I'll get out of the way please leave me alone." if I don't know you I'm just like "do your thing", so that was a hard thing to experience. I want everyone to win, I love people's successes. People making things up, armchair critics, but you know what, that's what made me write the book because I felt deeply emotionally disturbed that people are so sad in their own being that they want to strike out of people they don't even know and I went to such deep empathy around that, like I don't have that. and what was shocking to me was the level of hate, you know the level of anger. I wasn't trading photos every time I got promoted, I didn't feel like it was about me until Melody Hopson said "you're writing yourself out of History", so now I take pictures. I had bet LaReid once when I was an executive that you couldn't find a photo of me online. I freaked out more about my own children. Think about this, months, weeks before that, I'm with two different artists who are big in the world at the same location in Malibu and we were having (I thought) our secret whatever for a year now when those first pictures came online in Malibu I freaked out. Do you pay attention to what people say about you at all you? A: I really fell in love with my my third husband (Usher)and had worked with so many artists and traveled with them in the world, so I just didn't even think that that would become a thing. interesting because with Grace I feel like like you said you're not like paying attention to what's going on online, you have to like see what's happening, but you've had so many public things happening. First of all, yes, I like to say it's my new line because it's been coming up recently, Usher is amazing, but him being my third husband is the least interesting thing about me. but before that you actually were an executive chef for The Cosby Show A: Yes wait wait that's random, yeah okay. It always comes up as one of the first things, it'll be like "Usher's ex-wife" because you guys were together, you were married and you ended up getting divorced, but even before that, I knew who you were because I knew your first husband from doing a mix show Power Summit Renee, so I remember you from back in those days. Q: So for people listening, if you google Grace, you know and this has to be somewhat annoying to see who you've been affiliated with.
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